Episode 17

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29th May 2026

S3 E17 - Love Must Get Loud

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“It Matters How We Treat One Another” is the social science show - now in its third season! Here, host Matthew David Vasko discusses all the various ways that we can improve our relationships with others - partners, children, parents, extended family, friends, coworkers, and all the different types of people with whom we share our beautiful and diverse world. Features include Inspiring News and The Quote of the Week. Find our premium content on our Patreon, including The Takeaway.

Season 3, Episode 17, Topic: Love Must Get Loud

Host Matthew David Vasko sets out to learn whether or not hate speech should be legal and ends up at an interesting conclusion: Love must get loud. Learn about that and a follow-up to his previous episode on this finale of season 3.

Sources & References:

LEGAL CASES: Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969) | Snyder v. Phelps (2011) | Matal v. Tam (2017) | R. v. Keegstra, Canada (1990)

PHILOSOPHY: Karl Popper, The Open Society and Its Enemies (1945) | John Stuart Mill, On Liberty (1859) | Jeremy Waldron, The Harm in Hate Speech (2012)

ONLINE HATE SPREAD: Mathew et al., 'Spread of Hate Speech in Online Social Media,' ACM Web Science (2019) — study of 341K users and 21M posts showing hateful content spreads farther, faster, and wider | Milli et al., 'Engagement, User Satisfaction, and the Amplification of Divisive Content on Social Media,' Cornell Tech/UC Berkeley (2023) — Twitter's algorithm selects 62% anger content vs 52% chronologically

ALGORITHMS & OUTRAGE: Frances Haugen / Facebook Papers (2021) — internal Meta documents showing 'our recommendation systems grow the problem' of extremism | Amnesty International, 'Myanmar: Facebook's Systems Promoted Violence Against Rohingya' (2022) | UN Fact-Finding Mission on Myanmar (2018)

COUNTERSPEECH RESEARCH: Alvarez-Benjumea & Winter, PNAS (2021) — empathy-based counterspeech reduces xenophobic hate speech; humor and warnings do not | Jahani et al., 'Celebrity messages reduce online hate and limit its spread' — 20-week RCT in Nigeria, 50%+ reduction in hate reposting

MIND CHANGE RESEARCH: Broockman & Kalla, 'Durably reducing transphobia,' Science (2016) | William Miller & Stephen Rollnick, Motivational Interviewing | Anthony Magnabosco, Street Epistemology

HISTORY: The King Center, thekingcenter.org — Dr. King's leadership produced more progress toward racial equality in 13 years than the previous 350 | Civil Rights Act 1964 | Voting Rights Act 1965

HATE CRIME DATA: FBI Hate Crime Statistics 2023 & 2024 | Statistics Canada 2023 | German Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV) 2025 report

KEY QUOTES: Justice Louis Brandeis, Whitney v. California (1927) | Audre Lorde — 'It is not the responsibility of the oppressed to educate the oppressor'

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It Matters How We Treat One Another
The Social Science Show
Our name says it all; it matters how we treat one another. Our show is set in the realm of social science, but that simply means that we utilize science to better help you understand how people interact with one another. At its heart, this show is about improving our relationships on interpersonal, societal, and global levels. Segments include Inspiring News, Interviews, and The Takeaway.
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Matthew Vasko

Matthew David Vasko has a degree in communications and psychology and works professionally as a writer, speaker, and educator. He is a Credentialed Religious Educator, Advanced Level, in the Unitarian Universalist faith tradition. Matt has a passion for the social sciences and positive psychology and has worked professionally as an actor, comedian, and host.